2nd Smoke - Gammon Joint

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2nd Smoke - Gammon Joint

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Ok, so it has been a while since I was last on here, and it was only this weekend just gone that I finally got round to my second attempt on the smoker. I've got a Landmann Tennessee offset smoker, which I know is not the smoker of choice!

Anyway, I wasn't happy with smoke control, heat distribution, limited cooking time due to starting after work, temp control or temp measurement during the first smoking session, so I was determined to try and rectify these issues before firing it up for the second time.

First off was improving the lid seals, I lightly sanded all the edges around the openings, and primed with a standard red oxide metal primer (using masking tape to keep it nice and neat :) )

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I then put a bead of HT30 Silicone Heat Resistant sealant all the way around the opening, thicker in areas that I knew had bigger gaps, and thinner in areas that didn't. This stuff goes off pretty quick, so I had to do this part pretty quickly, as the important step was to place a 1" wide strip of greaseproof paper on top of the bead of sealant (I made sure these were pre cut). This is to ensure the sealant didn't stick to the lids when I closed them, whilst allowing the still wet sealant to form itself correctly to the exact shape of the lid. it didn't work perfectly, but it was a damn sight better than before. I may still re-do this, and if I do, then I'll be sticking the greaseproof paper to the inside of the lid to prevent it from creasing up when closing it.

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I also used a baking sheet (with permission of course), found the biggest drillbit I had and put lots of holes in it. then curved up one end with a lump hammer so that it would fit into the smoker and act as a kind of heat baffle.

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Next up was two £7 Fantast probe thermometers from Ikea, one for the meat, and one for the smoker temp. I just couldn't afford one of the recommended ones on the forum, but I personally thought these did the job perfectly!

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Grabbed a 1.5kg unsmoked, uncooked gammon from a local supermarket, covered it in the rub I used for my first smoking session about 1-2 hours before starting to smoke. Fired up the smoker with a handful of lumpwood charcoal and some bits of oak at about 11:30am.

I think this next one is after about 4 hours cooking (no basting yet)

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Made a baste out of some cider vinegar, honey, oil, moustard powder and a teaspoon of the dry rub, and put this on from about 5 hours cooking onwards.

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I tried to keep the temperature at around 93oC - 105oC, and although I had some fluctuations, I don't think I did too badly. The alarms on the pit timer sounded when it went over 130oC whilst I was off strimming the garden!! Which was a handy feature when I finally heard it!

I was aiming for the internal temp to hit 71oC, which it did after 6 hours and 40 mins.

Let it rest for about 20 mins:

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I thought I learnt a lot after the first attempt, and have learnt a hell of a lot more after the second, and am now very much looking forward to the next installment!
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Nice - I didn't know IKEA sold those - must get one for my UDS project!

As an aside - googled the probe and came across the US pricing:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80100406/

If you take the exchange rate, and vat into account - it translates into around gbp5.50. Rip off Britain again!
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I'm sure the Fantasts used to be cheaper than that??? Still very reasonable though.

@PyroBoris,

I think your attitude mirrors a lot of us... Having a go, identifying areas for improvement, acting on them, reaping the rewards and most importantly having fun through the process, good on ya mate and that gammon looks wonderful!!!!! :D


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I'm wondering if the probes in the Fantasts could be used in my home-made pit controller.
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aris wrote:I'm wondering if the probes in the Fantasts could be used in my home-made pit controller.
Worth a go, although some probes are calibrated against their units. Easy enough to check though :)

Is your home-made unit waterproof?

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Boris,
Also have a landmann tennessee and struggled with temps, got around this by using both charcoal grids in the smokebox, reversing them from lanscape to portrait. this allowed much more space beneathe them for ash to fall through and air to circulate, much more consistent now.

Did try and get a couple of spares from landmann but the thieving pikeys wanted £10 each and £7 pand p.

Only other issue I have had with it is the door flap slipping closed, thought of putting a washer in to make it an interference fit, have you done any mods to the doorr?

Gammon sounds splendid, did it go on raw or did you boil or soak it first?
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For now the Fantasts will do nicely I think, and you can't really argue with £7 a piece, even if it's cheaper in the States! (but then, most things are!)

Think the little lady will be using them for Sunday roasts as well, so it's just as well that the blackened probes and cords cleaned up as good as new in a bit of soapy water! I must say it was a completely different experience (I appreciate this is only my second time) doing a low N slow cook when your primary goal is simply to hit a target temp. For me anyway (and the lady) it removed that "is it really cooked properly?!" worry that we had first time round!

@ London irish - Thanks for the comments, I was definitely a bit more relaxed for the 2nd smoke, although these offset puppies do demand attention! Fickle beasts!

@Tiny - glad you mentioned the firebox and the door flap. I also noticed that it kept slipping closed, even to the point that I got two pairs of pliers to tighten up the nut and bolt (whilst it was screaming hot!). Definitely a temporary fix and will need to probably add in a washer of some sort as you say, also need to straighten the door flap a bit, as there's a pretty big air gap even when fully closed! As for the fire box itself, I actually had a cast iron BBQ grill accessory from my chimnea (the instructions for the chimnea say do not use to cook food...eh?) Anyway, even though it was round, it helped raise up the fire and provided better air circulation underneath, it wasn't ideal, but it was better. :) I'll keep you posted how I get on :)

Personally I think I needed to keep it a bit hotter during the cooking, as I might have ended up with slightly crispier and less chewy fat. But the flavour is most excellent. and the meat was just oozing juice! It was all a bit sordid really ;)

Brisket next me thinks, and another Pork Shoulder. Was also thinking about trying chicken, but spatchcocking it, rather than throwing it in whole? Damn I need a bigger smoker!

Also, I used a combination of lumpwood charcoal and pieces of oak. Can I swap the lumpwood charcoal for briquettes, and if so, should I be seeking out Big K? (there's a garden centre near me that sells it :) )
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With regards to the Big K, be careful, I've bought their stuff from garden centres before and ended up chucking the last quarter of the bag.......quite simply....dust :evil:

Whatever brand, always try and get restaurant grade (bigger lumps).

I'm on the blue bag stuff from Makro this year and it's on special at the mo, about 9 quid for a 12 kg bag :D


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@ Tiny - Oh, and the meat went on raw, the only prep I did after taking it out of the supermarket wrapping was to score the fat with a stanley knife (yes I did wash the knife first) and then put on the rub I had left over from the first smoke I did. :mrgreen:
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London Irish wrote:With regards to the Big K, be careful, I've bought their stuff from garden centres before and ended up chucking the last quarter of the bag.......quite simply....dust :evil:

Whatever brand, always try and get restaurant grade (bigger lumps).

I'm on the blue bag stuff from Makro this year and it's on special at the mo, about 9 quid for a 12 kg bag :D
Thanks for the heads up! And I have a Makro card knocking about somewhere as well! :D
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