ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

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ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

Postby Ron » 10 Oct 2014, 10:32

I built a HeaterMeter following the excellent project over at tvwbb.com created by Bryan Mayland. This includes a blower/servo damper from a Tom Kole design and 3D printed in the UK. The 3D prints I had done by a local bureau were pretty poor and need a lot of sanding and filing to get to a functional state. Job done and this was the result;

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I opted to use the 22mm brass compression fittings so epoxied a nut onto the outlet;

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My first attachment was the dog bowl method and used a Tank Flange Compression fitting in 22mm;

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This proved to be unsatisfactory with the HeaterMeter not able to get decent control. I played with the PID values for two test burns but could not get to a happy control. I'm pretty sure the problem was the side entry of the blown air. Using Heat Beads, the pit oscillated by 30-50F and nothing I tried stabilised it. This is the problem;

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So time to build an Airburner! Thanks Ralph Trimble for the idea!

I decided to go with 22mm copper pipe (nearly 3/4") and drill a hole in the bottom of the smoker. I've used stock copper fittings readily available in the UK so this makes the build real easy and the Airburner can be removed and the hole plugged with a stock end plug fitting. I used a compression Male Iron Coupler and a compression Female Iron Coupler to "bridge" the newly created hole in the bottom of the smoker. This inside the smoker;

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And this outside;

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Then onto the Airburner build;

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The finished item;
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A final 90deg elbow and a few extra pieces of 22mm pipe plus a 22mm Compression Coupling means I use the same nut that I glued on for the Dog Bowl;

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I also used Nomex gasket seals on all sections plus selaed up the hinges with a strip of Nomex. They were a bit leakey!
Pit is now almost Rock-Solid. I'll have fun tweaking the PID values for months yet!!

3 hours later and still within a degree of 225F either way.

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Re: ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

Postby YetiDave » 16 Oct 2014, 15:55

Nice job! :D I might grab some gasket material for the stackers on my Excel if the love affair with my UDS ever ends :lol:
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Re: ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

Postby SmokeyJoe » 17 Oct 2014, 09:50

That looks cool, I've been looking at these since I was planning the UDS build. Did you get the kit from tindie.com? Also if you are using the Maverick probes where did you get these from, I've been looking for replacement probes and I can only find sites in the US, with shipping it works out cheaper to buy the recevier/transmitter with the probes from Amazon.

Thanks

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Re: ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

Postby tommo666 » 17 Oct 2014, 12:33

These probes work well and are from the UK.
Cheaper than the ET7xx probes and i think better. Same as used in thermapens
http://thermometer.co.uk/probes-leads-f ... probe.html
http://thermometer.co.uk/probes-leads-f ... alarm.html
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Re: ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

Postby TakingtheBrisket » 17 Oct 2014, 17:27

SmokeyJoe wrote:That looks cool, I've been looking at these since I was planning the UDS build. Did you get the kit from tindie.com? Also if you are using the Maverick probes where did you get these from, I've been looking for replacement probes and I can only find sites in the US, with shipping it works out cheaper to buy the recevier/transmitter with the probes from Amazon.

Thanks

Joe

You can get the maverick probes from macsbbq, uk company excellent service
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Re: ProQ Frontier Modifications - Airburner & HeaterMeter

Postby Ron » 18 Oct 2014, 08:54

Joe, I purchased the parts from Mouser & Digikey and the PCB from tindie before Bryan had started the kit. Case came directly from Tom Kole in the US (excellent 3d print!) and I had the damper printed by a UK bureau (very disappointing quality compared to Tom's print.) Next time I will try 3D Hubs.

Thermocouple from eBay out of China and probes from ETI (thermometer.co.uk).

Good luck!
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