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Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 15 Oct 2015, 10:52
by wade
Careful you don't get caught loitering too long
She lives in Wyatts Green. Is that anywhere near you?
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 15 Oct 2015, 13:32
by essexsmoker
wade wrote:Careful you don't get caught loitering too long
She lives in Wyatts Green. Is that anywhere near you?
Lol.

Have to admit I had no idea where it was! On looking at a map , it is quite near. I'm in Chelmsford.
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 15 Oct 2015, 13:40
by Midlandsman
wade wrote:...I have not heard about removing the circles of skin. I will have to try that
There's a couple of videos that may be of interest:
https://youtu.be/oCvf86ecQ5whttps://youtu.be/DsWkYdm3BUkI can't find the one where I originally saw the 'coins' of skin being removed, but it can be seen quite clearly when he turns the finished product at round the 6 minute mark in the second video.
I've put the first video there as it shows a most unusual way (to me anyway) of filleting.
wade wrote:...The temperatures mentioned in the document are much higher though than I like to smoke at. What temperatures do you use.
Temps of around 25°C seem to be recommended for cold smoking salmon. IIRC Erlandson's book advises a temp around this figure.
I don't have temp control when cold smoking so have to go with whatever the outside temp is at the time. The increase in temp at the end to form a glaze is a new one on me.
MM
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 15 Oct 2015, 14:45
by wade
Midlandsman wrote:Temps of around 25°C seem to be recommended for cold smoking salmon. IIRC Erlandson's book advises a temp around this figure.
I don't have temp control when cold smoking so have to go with whatever the outside temp is at the time. The increase in temp at the end to form a glaze is a new one on me.
The original methodology that I followed and adapted called for 12-15 C and so I have kept with that. Different methods will vary and the salt and sugar content, as well as the loss of free water, which I guess would make it just as safe to do at the higher temperatures.
The videos are very informative too

Thanks
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 08:47
by wade
Midlandsman wrote:There's a couple of videos that may be of interest:
https://youtu.be/oCvf86ecQ5whttps://youtu.be/DsWkYdm3BUkI can't find the one where I originally saw the 'coins' of skin being removed, but it can be seen quite clearly when he turns the finished product at round the 6 minute mark in the second video.
I've put the first video there as it shows a most unusual way (to me anyway) of filleting.

I Owe you one MM. After seeing the video I am now booked on their next tour

Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 14:08
by essexsmoker
What's the best brand of salt to use? I have maldon sea salt but that's expensive, are there any cheap flaked salts ?
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 14:10
by essexsmoker
I've read 21C is ideal, so this seems to be a good compromise of the two.
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 19:27
by Midlandsman
wade wrote:...After seeing the video I am now booked on their next tour

I look forward to reading about your visit.
MM
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 19:38
by Midlandsman
essexsmoker wrote:What's the best brand of salt to use? I have maldon sea salt but that's expensive, are there any cheap flaked salts ?
I buy sea salt in large bags from my local wholefoods shop. The bag I'm using at present is French. It offers a good compromise between quality and price.They do a coarse or fine grain size - the fine grain is still quite a large grain though so I buy this one.
I've just checked and they've stopped doing the really large bags, but for anyone local to Leicester, they have
Trapani sea salt at £1.50/kg which seems very reasonable.
Perhaps there's a similar shop near you.
MM
Re: Smoking Fish
Posted: 18 Oct 2015, 04:25
by wade
I now only use coarse Dead Sea Salt when I cure and I buy it in 25 Kilo sacks from here. It works out at 73p/Kg
https://www.buywholefoodsonline.co.uk/natural-sea-salt-coarse-25kg-bulk.htmlTo begin with I was buying "Kosher Dead Sea Salt" from a different supplier at almost twice the price but to my surprise, when I tried a bag from here it came from exactly the same producer in exactly the same bags with exactly the same label.
They do sell them in smaller bags - 10Kg (82.1p/Kg) down to 1Kg (£1.52)
This grain size is also perfect for smoking for use as a condiment